Posted by LizMN on 06/21 at 07:33 PM | #
I quote from the article by Lawrence Sellin, "...the natural born citizen clause of the Constitution is there for a reason, to prevent such a situation from happening. It is about dual allegiance. It requires a Presidential candidate to be native born of US citizen parents at the time of birth.
"It is based on the Founders understanding of the term 'natural born citizen,' in the 1758 book 'The Law of Nations' by Emerich de Vattel, who wrote:
“'… natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. … Children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. … The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children…'”
The Constitution does not say this. Neither the Constitution nor the Federalist Papers (as far as I can find) define "natural born". Beware of attributing meaning to what the founders wrote.
We find ourselves in a whole lot of trouble because the Supreme Court has found things in the Constitution like a "woman's right to privacy" or finding that when the framers wrote "for public use" they really meant "for the public good" or that the phrase "interstate commerce" really meant "anything affecting interstate commerce".
I believe that we must take the words literally as they are written. That includes the phrase "natural born" which if the Founders believed that implied citizenship of both parents they never bothered to say so, including in the Federalist Papers.
I absolutely agree with your banner, "...Because without America, there is no free world." And that is why we fight liberalism.
Thank you for fighting the good fight!
Posted by David B. Crouse on 06/21 at 07:32 PM | #
@Lynda -- Yes, you are right. Cindy and her friends have been coming to this site for a long time. They use up lots of space. Ignoring them is the fastest method of getting rid of them, because they get bored when they are not getting attention. They are "needy" people.
All of the "truths" about Obama may never be known, but we know we have to get him out of the Oval Office somehow.
Posted by LizMN on 06/21 at 07:23 PM | #
True, no one knows where he was born.
Also, true, no one knows who his father was.
Posted by Dave3200 on 06/21 at 07:20 PM | #
Thanks for the warning in regard to Cindy, but her complete lack of facts already exposed her as a troll.
1) Clearly she has never read the Constitution as nowhere does it say anyone born in the US is a NBC.
2) One born outside the US to ONE citizen parent may be considered a US citizen IF the citizen parent
was old enough to pass on said citizenship, but they are certainly not NBCs.
3) NO ONE knows where the usurper was born…period! Regardless of the saying, repeating a lie often
enough does not necessarily make it true.
4) I was actually at the 9-12 March on DC so I was not duped by anyone. We marched from near the
Washington Monument to the Capitol Building so we were not close to the Lincoln Memorial.
Therefore there would not be anyone other than tourists near the Lincoln at that time.
5) The Military most certainly does have the power to remove an illegal usurper, if there is the will.
6) I’ve never heard the “some idiot received 2 e-mails” story. I’ve heard the alleged grandmother,
on tape, say he was born in Kenya, as well as the Prime Minister. When did the FBI, CIA, SS or the
Bush administration say any different? How did I miss that?
It is rather amusing reading the ranting of the insane.
Posted by Lynda on 06/21 at 07:13 PM | #
@canusee -- Wow! Reading your comments sent chills up and down my spine. You could be right -- horrible thought -- none of us knows the truth, other than there is an illegal person in the Oval Office. There is lots of information on these two websites --
The other -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN8GWqsodYA --
Also, "The Obama Error" by Atty. Stephen Pidgeon (Amazon $14.95) is an eye-opener.
Posted by LizMN on 06/21 at 06:08 PM | #
To clarify. It is an absolute "hands off" topic for many in the public eye--both politicians and conservative media. Beck, Hannity, Rush, West, Palin, Dems and Pubs in DC will not say anything about legitimacy. None of them would care, and would probably actually be willing to have everything about themselves and their families exposed, to tell the truth. But they uncharacteristically do not. Many Americans would die to save this country by speaking up and not let themselves be blackmailed. Which points to the obvious: Obama is not threatening or blackmailing with just them and their personal lives. It has to be bigger.
It was pointed out that O would not be the one pressing any button; there is a chain of command and people would have to first obey his orders. That is no biggie with the extent of infiltration in the government. Perhaps the reality is America does not exist and the takeover is almost complete.
I admit, I thought this silly when first read some fruitcake propose this and said, "Oh, brother!" But as each high-profile person backs off, after some momentum, it is unsettling. I find myself thinking, "Maybe". I think Beck tried to tell the masses this when he discounted and mocked birthers. Sort of, "Look at the obvious. This is not me. Research. Talk amongst yourselves. Get connected."
I ask myself if this thought is reaity, why have Farah, Orly, and other high profile birthers not been shut up?
Well, they have been made, by the usurpers, into poster kids for why being a birther is silly and a conspiracy theory. It used to be no one wanted to be called a racist, now it is no one wants to be called a birther and be identified with nutjobs and kooks. Alynsky? With the high ranking types mentioned above, if they talked that O is a fraud, using truth and facts,the masses would give it creditability.
And all the while we are depending on our system to be able to vote the goonies out, more terrorists are moving into all branches of government and the military.
Silly? Not logical? Tin Foil Hat? Only if afraid of what might be found. The sooner we acknowledge O and cronies are terrorists, and not just mere identity theft and money laundering criminals, the more hope their is to get the country back. As long as we say, "Never." or "Could not happen" the deeper they dig their heels into America's back.
It is not a futile exercise and is actually "brain candy" to think upon the worst case scenarios. It certainly does not make one a loonytune.
Admit it There are a handful of things each one of us thought a conspiracy theory a few years ago and now have proven to be fact.
Posted by canusee on 06/21 at 05:18 PM | #
Cindy is a troll so do not enable her by addressing her.
Some of her troll friends are Dieter and Boo.
Posted by LizMN on 06/21 at 03:38 PM | #
Obama’s ineligibility: Congress says al-Qaida terrorist can be President
Posted by Lawrence Sellin on Jun 21, 2011 at 01:30 PM
According to Warner and every other member of the US Congress, al-Awlaki is a natural-born American citizen and he is fully eligible to serve as President of our country
There is no gray area. Either members of Congress are liars or they are too stupid to serve in government.
Senator Mark R. Warner (D-VA) says:
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