I said, "...Barack Soetero..." but it should have been Barack Soetoro.
Barack Obama -- Barack Soetoro... What is this all about?
Here are a few websites that bring out this contradiction:
The Fraud Of Barry Soetoro (a.k.a. Barack Hussein Obama)
Is it Barry Soetoro or Barack Obama?
Proof Obama went by Barry Soetoro at Occidental
Do a search on "Soetoro" and you find many, many that point the ugly finger at Barry Soetoro as the pretender in the White House with his feet propped up on the Resolute Desk.
Posted by NoCrud on 08/10 at 09:50 PM | #
Here's the bottom line re Obama's eligibility:
He was born the child of a woman that everyone assumes to be his mother but where's the proof that she is actually his mother??? The real and true LONG FORM birth certificate would show this -- if it actually exists!
More importantly, to be a Natural Born Citizen, the parentS must be American Citizens. Obama's supposed father, Obama, SR was never, ever an American Citizen! From those who are knowledgeable of the Law we find that this has to be: BOTH parents must be a citizen or the person under scrutiny is NOT Natural Born. This I presented earlier where there was a table from a legal institution that presents this little hurtful factoid to the Leftoids.
However, how can we be sure that Obama, Sr "The African," as presented on his "birth certificate" and not "Kenyan," is actually the Pretender's father? There is plenty of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham Obama Soetero hanged around with several undesirables, per the mores of American society. But, was Barack Hussein Obama really Barack Soetero's father??? That jury is still out.
Here is a very interesting website that brings all this into focus while proposing a reason for Obama's assumed mother acting as she did to arrive at the moment of giving birth, supposedly, to Obama, Jr.:
Very interesting reading and I recommend as one that exposes much possible truth and leaves the reader with an empty feeling about where Obama is really coming from. Sad, sad, sad!
Posted by NoCrud on 08/10 at 09:32 PM | #
"The White House said the black-and-white image is a copy of Obama's 2007 [Certification of Live Birth], but it's not. It is the forgery I created, and I can prove that is the case," he declared.
Polland said he created the image to bolster his contention that the short-form Certification of Live Birth circulated by the Obama presidential campaign was a forgery."
He continued with:
"You have to be able to show how an electronic document was created in order to prove it is a forgery," he explained. "I wanted to prove the [short-form certificate] was a forgery, and I wanted to show how it can be done."
Then how did the White House end up presenting the forgery as authentic?
Polland contends that all of the short-form "versions in circulation on the Internet are forgeries."
"Probably the White House just picked my forgery off Snopes.com, thinking it was the real thing," he said.
Polland said he realized various Obama supporting groups, including Snopes.com, had posted his forgery as the authentic Obama document, but he decided to say nothing until he felt the time was right.
"I didn't say anything until the White House published my forged Obama birth certificate as the real thing," he said. "Then I decided it was time to speak up. Once the White House posted the forgery, I knew I could expose both the president and a supposedly independent, fact-checking website like Snopes.com as being caught promoting a fake document as the real thing."
Read more: 'I created Obama's certification of birth' http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=331525#ixzz1Ug5hnhbi
Anyone who wants to argue that the "birth certificate" presented by Obama personally and by his many supporters need to go to the website and see what the real and true EXPERTS are saying. All the baloney by ignorant rhetoricians on this website, posing as experts in their own right (haha!) are now going to try to discredit WND and Jerome Corsi as if they also have PHD's and have spent years studying this issue.
Anyone want to wonder why it's a waste of time talking to any old clown that muddies the waters and fouls the air???
Posted by NoCrud on 08/10 at 09:12 PM | #
This is for all those PLANTS, paid or otherwise, who are working for the Democrats, deep into their pockets, arguing that they are trying to "help" us determine whether Obama's "birth certificate" analyzers are "experts" or not, run-on mouths that are purely argumentative without one shred of believability, in the long run. I have no doubt that what we have been seeing is a group of idiots who use one screen name, standing three deep as the chuckle and grin, pat each other on the back and say to each other, "That'll get 'em."
Here it is, you Heroes of the Left:
This is by Jerome Corsi, a PHD (can you spell that???) who is indeed an expert and the one whose book about Obama scared him so much that he went on nationwide TV to present his "true, long form birth certificate" which was nothing more than a forgery, the ONLY thing The Obamaroids can come up with, and they assumed that it would be accepted by the Sheeple of America?
By the way, the heading of that website posted above,
is exposing a man who came forth and admitted that he made that forgery and did it to prove that the Left would jump all over it and accept it as a true document and, at the same time, exposes the Snopes.com site as complicit in the effort to promote a fake man and "birth certificate."
Here is one quote from that site but it is well worthwhile reading the entire webpage and keep in mind that it is authored by Jerome R. Corsi, PHD an expert in his own right, "[Jerome Corsi's book,] "Where's the Birth Certificate?" is available for immediate shipping, autographed by the author, only from the WND Superstore." (Go to the website for links to store offering the book.)
This promo continues with:
"Get the most comprehensive special report ever produced on the Obama eligibility issue."
Read more at: 'I created Obama's certification of birth' http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=331525#ixzz1Ug3zCGkk
The EXPERT said, in part: "...the short-form certificate to which the White House linked April 27 was a forgery, claims research expert Ron Polland, Ph.D., who says he made the image himself.
"I made the birth certificate image that was given to the media at the White House press conference held on April 27, 2011," Polland told WND."
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Posted by NoCrud on 08/10 at 09:11 PM | #
Examples of REAL evidence: PPsimmons over on YouTube uploaded a video of Kenyan government officials talking about Obama having been born there, and showing their plans to build a tourist site at the allegedly real birthplace of Obama. Unfortunately, the same PPsimmons has also uploaded lots of Pastor Gallup videos alleging digital evidence against the birth certificate, which are VERY EASILY refuted, and that has a backlash effect that discredits ALL of what PPsimmons and Gallup do, INCLUDING this Kenyan officials video that’s REAL evidence!
Also, NoCrud here linked to a blog by Leo Donofrio that shows real evidence (backed up by links to older copies from The Internet Wayback Machine) that Judicia.com has been altering their reporting of Supreme Court decisions to remove references to a particular case that implies that, even if born in Hawaii, Obama would not qualify as a Natural Born Citizen.
Now THAT is EVIDENCE! It would need more analysis to be more sure, but unlike the birth certificate artifacts, it’s NOT crying “WOLF!” But since the Birthers have been harping on the birth certificate artifacts, the whole anti-Obama movement is being dismissed out-of-hand, like the villagers did to the boy (what they did was another example of Argumentum ad Hominem, by the way — no matter how many times the kid had proven himself untrustworthy, that did NOT mean that he was lying THIS time).
Posted by COMALite J on 08/10 at 02:57 PM | #
@usfrog and @NoCrud and everyone else (cont.):
Do you not get it? I’M TRYING TO •HELP• YOU!! If you or anyone claiming to be an expert brings the “layers” and “kerning” and stuff into court, they will be laughed out, and their credibilities and careers (in the case of those claiming to be graphics experts) utterly ruined for LIFE!
Why? Ever read or hear the children’s story, “The Boy Who Cried ‘Wolf!’”? A quick refresher: a pre-teen village boy was tasked keep watch for a man-eating wolf that plagued the village. He was to warn the village if, and ONLY if, he saw the wolf, by crying “WOLF!” The women and children would flee to safety, and the men would bring weapons to hopefully slay the evil wolf once and for all.
One day, the boy, bored with the task, decided to have a little fun. He cried “WOLF!” and sure enough, the village panicked, women and kids hid, and the men came out to him with pitchforks and other farm and village-type weaponry, and said, “Where!? Where is he!?” The boy was laughing almost too hard to answer, but managed to stammer out that he had just shouted it as a prank. The village folk were angry, and warned him never to do that again.
But he did. A second, and third, and maybe even more times. Then, one day, he really DID see the wolf, coming for the village. “WOLF!! WOLF!!!” he shouted. Nobody paid any attention to him. “No, I REALLY MEAN IT! He’s REALLY THERE!!” “You won’t fool US again,” they said. And the wolf came into the unprepared village, and slew many, including the boy’s family.
Of course, I don’t think that any of you are doing this for fun, and unlike the boy in this story, you really do mean, and believe, what you say. Nevertheless, there is no “wolf” in the birth certificates, at least not in the forms that the “experts” have been talking about — not the layers, “kerning,” “chromatic abberation,” etc.
When you harp on such things that are SO EASILY DISPROVEN by ANYONE, you’re crying “WOLF!” just as assuredly as the boy in this story, if not for the same reasons. The results are the same: people stop believing ALL of the evidence against Obama, even the REAL evidence, because you guys keep harping on the UNREAL evidence.
Posted by COMALite J on 08/10 at 02:55 PM | #
@usfrog: That may be of true plants, but I have not accused anyone here of doing anything that I myself do, nor that I cannot back up. The only accusation I have made is that NoCrud used Argumetum ad Hominem against me, and Appeal to Authority, both of which s/he actually did do, and neither of which I have done (I’ve gone out of my way to avoid both).
Indeed, I forgot to mention that by accusing me of being a plant, NoCrud is yet again committing Argumentum ad Hominem. EVEN IF I WERE a plant (which I am not, but EVEN IF I •WERE•), that would STILL not automatically make what I said untrue. In any debate, you have to refute the ARGUMENT, NOT the ARGUER. You have to refute what I SAID, NOT what you (mistakenly, in this case, but EVEN IF truthfully) think that I AM.
I gave very easy step-by-step instructions to demonstrate to ANYONE with their OWN document, their OWN scanner, their OWN Adobe software running on their OWN computer, that ALL of the artifacts and effects seen in Obama’s long-form birth certificate are very easily produced through an AUTOMATIC process that involves NO fraud, forgery, etc.
Posted by COMALite J on 08/10 at 02:53 PM | #
Loved your article on taking back America. Everyone that I talk with is fed up with what is going on. We cannot be complacent any more. Keep up the good work. Don’t let the liberals discourage you. Thank You
Posted by Roger N. on 08/10 at 12:43 PM | #
Obama’s ineligibility: Prepare to defend America – Time to take over the government
Posted by Lawrence Sellin on Aug 8, 2011 at 11:40 AM
Hubris has led to the nation's most corrupt administration and a Congress filled with elitist politicians, who compromise the Constitution, flout the rule of law and bankrupt our country
There is nothing fundamentally wrong with the United States or the Constitution. We have no problem that cannot be solved. We just have terrible leaders.
The worst characteristic in any leader is hubris, which is best described as a combination of arrogance and stupidity. Sadly, our current leaders in Washington, D.C. have an abundance of it.More...
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