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CommentsObserver, you show that you do not know for yourself but quote, perhaps out of context, words of others.God is not a "thing" that can be seen. He is a spirit. This means he has no physical form in himself and this is why scholars say that Jesus was/is "God in the Flesh." What you propose when you say "What is God?" is pantheism. This is defined as a belief that God is in everything we know as part of creation. This is faulty logic taken apart from what the Bible says. If God is in everything, then everything is God but "things" are substantive matter and, again, God is a spirit -- so says the Bible. These are things one learns in the first year of Bible college. You can also realize this by merely reading the Bible with a good dictionary alongside. To philosophize about the person of God as you do merits a general comment. Anyone who does this assumes that God can be fathomed by mere logic alone. Moses in the Bible was educated by the best minds in Egypt and Egyptian writings declare that Greeks thought like children... Therefore, to assume that you can display what God is, what is God's composition is in itself illogical in its totality since no one, not even Moses, can fathom even one facet of God's enormity in all its completeness. I appreciate your attempt to place God in a position to reveal that He is merely part of creation but even this is faulty logic. How can the Creator be limited by his own creation? Creation has limits even if you bring in words like Infinity because Infinity is not Eternity. Eternity is "outside of Time" which means that there is no beginning or ending. Even infinity is limitless by definition since when you get to the last day or mile, you can always add to it. But being outside of Time, God is not limited. It is nearly impossible for the western mind to understand this but the Ancients did. Plato wrote about this in The Apology but today, people are too academically lazy to strive to understand all we can about God and Eternity. Posted by NoCrud on 08/23 at 10:17 PM | # I´ve read the article and the published readers’ comments… Just I wish to make two points: 1.The well-known British historian Michael Wood while talking about history of great civilizations; Hindu, Chinese or Egyptian says these words: while Gods come and go; only the humans remain! 2.What is God? And if there is God, is God´s creation different from God? The Christians or the Jews assume that God is different from God´s creation ( the Universe) but fortunately for at least some people the two are the same, although the notion of God just represents the dynamic aspect of the consciousness of the Universe. Posted by observer on 08/23 at 09:37 PM | # I agree with you, Carlos. I did not see anything in Ruth's comment that should disturb anyone. Oh, well...! Here's something I discovered in reading a book about Kolchak's Gold: Nietzsche said: "Audacity is essential to greatness." This tells us where Obama is coming from. It's the same place that Ayers, Hitler, Mussolini and other Marxists are coming from and it all rolls back to Atheism -- going against God. Following Allah, as opposed to God, is also Atheism since God's Laws are NOT the same as Allah's "laws." Now, who was Nietzsche? http://www.ukapologetics.net/frankfurt.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism Nietzsche's "Death of God" Invective http://www.leaderu.com/marshill/mhr04/faith1.html Friedrich Nietzsche and His Thoughts on Socialism http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eItS6e6eaeE As an aside, how is it that the "religion of peace" people killed a bunch of people, in a park near where bin Laden was supposedly taken out? They were watching film about Jesus. And, how is it that the Muslims claim that Jesus is OK only because He was a prophet, they say, and then deny that He was the Son of God? But they want to kill people for merely watching a film about Jesus? Yep, a real Religion of Peace... Posted by NoCrud on 08/22 at 05:47 PM | # @Karl D. That was an uncharitable, un-Christian remark you made about Ruth. I see her comment as an affirmation that she's not a victim of John Dewey's progressive education. Smugly condescending comments don't originate in Christianity, but rather from John Dewey's progressively educated liberals and such. Could that be you? Posted by Carlos on 08/22 at 07:38 AM | # Uh, Ruth -- that was mentioned in the article if you read it. But thanks for leaving the ad behind. Posted by Karl Daggerfield on 08/22 at 03:55 AM | # Crucial to the scientific method is the presumption of order in the universe. And anyone who thinks order can arise by chance from randomness and chaos, needs to review that minor detail known as the Second Law of Thermodynamics. There's ample scientific support for the Biblical account of creation; there's just a lot of people who don't want to admit it, because they don't want to admit God is real, because they don't like the idea of being held accountable by Him. Posted by Ruth Bard on 08/22 at 01:45 AM | # Another interesting book: The Genesis Enigma: Why the Bible is Scientifically Accurate. Author is Andrew Parker. Posted by Miz on 08/22 at 12:16 AM | # Well-written, interesting article. Thanks! Very often, scientists only prove that knowledge apart from God is limited. It is worthwhile to know how different elements of science, the "how things work" of nature, relate to each other. When nature is studied and people try to understand better how our world works with all its elements inter-meshed and interwoven, we often discover other things that surprise us and, ultimately, bring greater glory to God by bringing us to a better grasp of the world our Creator provided us. Remember how Moses, a man who was a Prince of Egypt and one of the better-educated men of all time, asked God to show him (Moses) his glory. God showed Moses a little back corner of it and it left Moses in a daze for days. It affected him greatly. If God had shown Moses all his glory, no doubt Moses could have not withstood the resulting shock and awe. What is outright amazing and funny in an astounding way is where we find atheistic scientists, like those of NASA who infiltrated that and other bodies of science, wanting to "discover" the origins of the earth when an 8th grader's reading of the Bible provides the answer to that question. If those scientists could explain the Big Bang and where that material came from, then would glibly say that they have discovered the first stage of evolution. Ha! One sage said that the Bible not only explains everything we need to know, it also implies that any question not answered by the Bible is of no real importance, in eternal matters. Still, like scientists, it is not wrong to strive to know more about the Bible and about nature. In the process, we achieve a better understanding of ourselves. There are books written that show that the Bible contains many scientific answers but many scientists do not realize it. For example, the earth being round is explained along with many other things the scientists "discovered" centuries later. One book I have read about this was written in 1895... Posted by NoCrud on 08/21 at 09:04 PM | # The Christian Foundation of Modern SciencePosted by Kelly OConnell on Aug 21, 2011 at 09:15 AM
Could Cold, Pagan Materialism Really Ever Explain the Universe? To suggest that modern science had a Christian beginning would seem to most folks as absurd. This is true for several reasons. First we are propagandized daily with the “fact” that science and religion have nothing in common, but mix like oil and water. Second, the educational system in America leaves many of its victims totally incapable of critical thinking, thanks to progressive education icon John Dewey. Third, the complete trashing of religion in general, and Christianity in particular, has become an enormous goal of the secular culture, with much success currently. More...Post a Comment on: The Christian Foundation of Modern ScienceCommenting is not available in this channel entry. Next entries comments: Sharpton’s Awkward Dead Air Segment Previous entries comments: The New and Improved American Dream as Envisioned by UN Agenda 21 Note from the Editor: This section is for comments from readers of canadafreepress.com. Please don't assume that Canada Free Press agrees with or endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose his or her posting privilege. |
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