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“For four decades the Alinsky-inspired Campaign for Human Development (CHD) escaped close investigation under the fuzzy warm blanket of ‘Social Justice’ that envelops it.”

Excerpts from Ecclesiastical Megalomania –The Economic and Political Thought of the Roman Catholic Church
“In the thirteenth century the Italian who became the official philosopher of the Roman Catholic Church-State, Thomas Aquinas, wrote no treatise on economics, but his thinking, based on that of Aristotle, is foundational for understand the economic thought of the Roman Church-State.

Because the goods of some are due to others by the natural law, there is no sin if the poor take the goods of their neighbors. Thomas wrote ‘In cases of need, all things are common property, so that there would seem to be no sin in taking another’s property, for need has made it common’. Not only is such taking of another’s property not a sin, it is not even a crime, according to Thomas.

From these doctrines of the natural community of goods and the moral primacy of need developed all the forms of anti-capitalist social organizations that the Roman Church-State has supported for the past thousand years. The Roman Catholic doctrine of private property is echoed in the nineteenth century Communist slogan, “From each according to his ability; to each according to his need.”

Human rights are more important than property rights. It was the creed of Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society: “We shall take from the haves and give to the have-nots, who need it so much.”
Roman Catholic bishops in Brazil in 1998 pronounced that looting is nether a sin nor a crime. The San Diego Union Tribune –May 8, 1998

According to John Paul II, not only is it unjust that Americans have cars and homes while Chinese walk and live in huts, but it is “manifestly unjust,” that is, so obviously unjust that one need not even bother to argue the point. It is manifestly unjust because the Earth and everything in it belong to all people in common- because of the fundamental principle or the universal destination of goods.

Had not Thomas Aquinas himself said that need makes all goods common, and when the poor take the goods of the rich, for their own or their neighbor's benefit, it is not a sin?
Posted by sidesaddle  on  11/22  at  02:18 PM | #



FYI, Judi, the devils have been in and around the Catholic Church from very close to its beginning, if not, in fact, whispering in the ears of its founders; I believe this is true for most all Churches and denominations. For which has not, even from perfect beginnings, become quickly lukewarm and relatively powerless?

On 11/21 Anon Nimity said here:
"I was A Catholic all my life until I realized that 99% of what the Catholic Church practices is nowhere to be found in the Bible."

This reminds me a bit of my own story. I was raised Catholic. Saw the wide-spread hypocrisy and some of the many theological problems at 12-14 at which time I personally gave it up, though I continued in parent-forced parochial/Jesuit education. I was agnostic until age 40 when I was dramatically "born-again".
——This by anon nimity, and what comes before it, is excellent observation and good advice: "...They are leading many millions down the wrong path. "When the Devil comes to Church and Stays," the title of your article is indeed a fitting name for the Catholic Church. Get out now, and find a Bible believing Church that teaches the word of God. I am attaching a video for you to view, please also read "A Woman Rides the Beast" by Dave Hunt. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5imIpSbMzk&NR=1" ...

You and all Christian-bent folks need to know:
1. When Jesus died and was raised Satan saw the writing on the wall. He likely said something like this to himself: "I had better get and keep all these possibly immensely-harmful-to-me 'born-agains' lukewarm and powerless, asap!"—and he has done a masterful job.
2. The Revelation is not a set of commands by God, it is a prediction of what would/will/is happening when Christian ranks became populated with Tares. It would be 95% 'lukewarm'. It would become a very minor spiritual power —despite the extreme potential for good because of: 'Jesus in you', and, being 'Spirit-filled'. What a shame that all that potential has been wasted for close to 2000 years. And we ought be horrified that all that pain has been accumulated! The travesty! Can you take it in?

Because Church leaders are the first line of education and defense against evils perpetrated against their flocks, they 'will be judged more harshly' than those to whom they have caused these great harms.
—Can you unblock Jesus' love from within and bring yourself to pray for your leaders?
Posted by D Bene  on  11/22  at  01:48 PM | #



Donna Ruth, I see your point. I was putting emphasis on what you said without taking into account others' remarks.

However, if you see what was said in my comment, it was not so much to attempt to correct you but to indicate that possibly you had misunderstood the intent of Judi McLeod's article and my comments. If what I said was not appropriate to your comments, please disregard.
  
Posted by NoCrud  on  11/22  at  12:05 AM | #



Thank you, Judi, for the "chilling skinny" on "The devil has come to church."

Good Goin' I knew that. But trust in JESUS ALONE! The devil rules many SPINELESS churches AND THEIR LEADERS.

But not ALL. And NEVER captalize that LONG TIME unrepentant fool's name.
Posted by C & R  on  11/21  at  09:46 PM | #



Judi,

Excellent article about the Devil coming to Stay-thanks!
Posted by Tom G.  on  11/21  at  09:44 PM | #



Christmas and the birth of Christ. As to December the 25th being a pagan holiday, I might ask the “Chicken and the Egg problem”. Satan knows the scriptures far better than anyone I know of. He knew all the scriptures predicting the birth of Christ. As was stated, he was born in September, and in the year he was born, that is most probably September the 29th which on the Jewish calendar is the 15th of Tisri which is the first day of the feast of tabernacles and that matches well with the words “And He tabernacled with us” Matthew 1:18-19. Back that up 9 months an lo and behold we are at December the 25th. December the 25th was the first day of the month of Tebeth which was first day Christ was officially on earth (day of conception). Mary’s cousin Elizabeth was 6 months pregnant with John the Baptist and when Mary ran over to her cousin Elisabeth’s home, John leapt in Elizabeth’s womb because John recognized the presence of the Holy Spirit. Mary’s husband Zacharias was a Levitical priest and served in the temple in the course of Abiah, which makes the conception of John to be the 23 of Sivan.
The demonic holiday is on the winter solstice which is about December the 23. But is that because it was always a demonic holy day or was that made a demonic holy day because Satan knew that it would be on or near the first day Christ would be on earth? I am sure that it was Satan up to his dirty tricks once again and up to that day he had spent 4000 years doing his dirty tricks so why would we believe that he would not do a demonic holy day at the time of Christ’s conception.
Posted by JohnMinn  on  11/21  at  09:27 PM | #



Eschatology:


There are 3 traditional positions on the end-times:
- Futurism - The belief that most of the prophesies in the Bible concerning the end-times are still to come. It was first introduced by a Spanish Catholic Jesuit priest named Francisco Ribera in 1590.
- Preterism - The belief that most of the prophesies in the Bible concerning the end-times happened by 70 A.D. It was first introduced by a Spanish Catholic Jesuit priest named Luis De Alcazar posthumously in 1614.
- Historicism - The belief that most of the prophesies in the Bible concerning the end-times have been occuring over time. This was and has been the commonly held belief of Protestants during and after the Reformation.
http://www.siffordsojournal.com/bgsgam/


Left Behind By The Jesuits

http://www.angelfire.com/la2/prophet1/Jesuits.html
Posted by sidesaddle  on  11/21  at  09:05 PM | #



Former Catholic Priest Richard Bennett
Berean Beacon Ministries proclaims the Good News of Salvation, The Gospel of Jesus Christ. The President and founder is Richard Bennett, a former Roman Catholic Priest. http://bereanbeacon.org/

In this the "Historical" interpretation, the antichrist was clearly not merely a single individual, it was a system of apostasy and persecution that would hold sway for over twelve centuries. The inevitable conclusion of those who studied these prophesies in scripture, before and during the Protestant Reformation, was that there was only one entity that fit all the above characteristics: the papal dynasty of the Roman Catholic Church. Is it any wonder that the Catholic Church was so violently opposed to the scriptures being available for everyone to read for themselves? There was such a stir created during the reformation that the Fifth Lateran Council (1512-17 A.D.) resorted to strictly forbidding anyone to publish a book without prior censorship, and also prohibited anyone from preaching on the subject of antichrist:

FUTURISM

Francisco Ribera (1537-1591) was a Jesuit doctor of theology, born in Spain, who began writing a lengthy commentary in 1585 on the book of Revelation (Apocalypse) titled In Sacrum Beati Ioannis Apostoli, & Evangelistiae Apocalypsin Commentarij, and published it about the year 1590. He died in 1591 at the age of fifty-four, so he was not able to expand on his work or write any other commentaries on Revelation. In order to remove the Catholic Church from consideration as the antichrist power, Ribera proposed that the first few chapters of the Apocalypse applied to ancient pagan Rome, and the rest he limited to a yet future period of 3 1/2 literal years, immediately prior to the second coming. During that time, the Roman Catholic Church would have fallen away from the pope into apostasy. Then, he proposed, the antichrist, a single individual, would:

Manuel De Lacunza (1731–1801), a Jesuit from Chile, wrote a manuscript in Spanish titled La Venida del Mesías en Gloria y Magestad ("The Coming of the Messiah in Glory and Majesty"), under the pen name of Juan Josafa [Rabbi] Ben-Ezra about 1791. Lacunza wrote under an assumed Jewish name to obscure the fact that he was a Catholic, in order to give his book better acceptance in Protestantism, his intended audience. Also an advocate of Futurism, Lacunza was deliberately attempting to take the pressure off the papacy by proposing that the Antichrist was still off in the future. His manuscript was published in London, Spain, Mexico and Paris between 1811 and 1826.
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When the Devil comes to Church and Stays

Posted by Judi McLeod on Nov 22, 2011 at 12:36 AM

Saul Alinsky, Catholic Bishops, Alinsky-inspired Campaign for Human Development

imageNoting my misadventures of late in the Catholic churches I attend, a friend warns me that “The Devil has come to church.” 

Although I would rate the pulpit politics, including the most recent one from Development and Peace’s “Help to Cool the Earth” campaign devilish, I never til’ now took my friend’s warning literally.

But In fact, the devil has come to church in the name of one Saul Alinsky.

Thanks to colleague Canada Free Press (CFP) columnist Jim O’Neill, who sent me a post by Bob Lunsford this morning quoting Fr. Val J. Peter, I got the chilling skinny on how much at home Beelzebub is in church.

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