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I believe it stands to reason that said recession will deepen before we see improvementConsider the timing of reporting, October 2008 and nowBy Ian R. Campbell Thursday, August 9, 2012Today’s Detailed Commentaries World >> Statistics: Consider the timing of reporting Last week U.S. home prices in May were reported by S&P/Case-Shiller. The composite 20-city home price index, said to be ‘a key gauge of U.S. home prices’, was reported to be up 2.2% in May from April, and down 0.7% from May, 2011. This has generally been seen as good news – a possible ‘green shoot’ in the U.S. field of soggy economic ground as it were. Consider broadly, beyond Case-Shiller or any other specific economic statistics, the importance of ‘speed of change in economic condition’ in the context of the time period for which statistics are reported. Since early May a number of important things have happened in both the Eurozone and the United States that are directionally negative since early May including (to note but a few):
Two – three months is a long time in a rapidly changing economic landscape. Consider what real value two-month old Case-Shiller, or any other two – three-month old economic statistic has when it is reported, and think hard about how much weight should really be given to such a statistic in the current economic environment by the governments in their planning activities, the financial markets, or anyone else for that matter. Interestingly a second article that reports the Case-Shiller May report in a ‘favourable to U.S. housing recovery way’ is running a survey with its article. The single question asked is: “have home prices bottomed where you live”. Votes are being recorded as I write this, but the first 2,492 respondents have replied:
Presumably this is what real ‘feet on the street’ Americans think now, not necessarily what they may have thought three months ago. Decide for yourself what such a survey means in the context of U.S. housing recovery or further decline, if anything. Note that based on the number of respondents, this survey may or may not have statistical validity depending on how many respondents come from individual U.S. cities and regions. Topical Reference: A Look at Case-Shiller, by Metro Area, from Real Time Economics, The Wall Street Journal, Phil Izzo, July 31, 2012 – reading time 2 minutes; and Evidence mounts that home prices hit bottom last winter, fromEconomy Watch NBC News , Bill Briggs, July 31, 2012 – with accompanying survey – reading time 3 minutes.North America >> United States: October 2008 and now Why read: To test the contemporaneous views I expressed four years ago, to observe similarities and differences then and now, and to determine if you agree with my current views. Commentary then: On October 22, 2008, about one month after the Lehman Bros. bankruptcy, I commented on whether I thought the U.S. then was in recession. At that time I said:
How can the U.S. not be in recession? Moreover, I believe it stands to reason that said recession will deepen before we see improvement;
Having regard to the fact that many investors rely heavily on these investment advisors, I consider these views unrealistic, frankly naïve in the extreme, and downright frightening. One of these Investment Advisors, who unflaggingly believed when the Dow was at 13,000 that the broad stock market indices would not erode materially.That same investment advisor has given me various versions of ‘why he thinks this’ over the entire 2006 – 2008 period. Most often, his reasons have centered on the argument that the market weighs all probability into stock prices and hence material erosion could not occur. He has been closed minded with respect to any other outcome, irrespective of the reasons and statistics given to him. In a conversation last week he was so discombobulated that part way through the conversation he began to talk in garbled sentences. At October 22, 2008 I continue to believe retail consumers are the key to the economic puzzle and where we are headed economically. If we see continuing drops in consumer spending at the retail level in the U.S. and elsewhere, I strongly believe we will find that neither the U.S. Government or any other world government has enough ‘fingers’ to plug the holes that exist, and are threatening to develop, in the world economic ‘dike’. Commentary today: In summary, and with the benefit of four years of hindsight and experience, what I see today is very little different from what I saw in October, 2008:
As I see things, what were holes in the U.S. economic dyke in October 2008 are now ‘bigger holes’, and there are more of them. Important Snippets From Today’s Commentaries Snippet #1: Two – three months is a long time in a rapidly changing economic landscape. Consider what real value two-month old Case-Shiller, or any other two – three-month old economic statistic has when it is reported, and think hard about how much weight should really be given to such a statistic in the current economic environment by the governments in their planning activities, the financial markets, or anyone else for that matter. Snippet #2: As I see things, what were holes in the U.S. economic dyke in October 2008 are now ‘bigger holes’, and there are more of them. |
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